Getting After It

126 - Dave Daly - How a Tragic Neck Injury Turned into a Comeback Story

• Brett Rossell • Season 4 • Episode 126

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Dave Daly should’ve died in that water. A family vacation. A rogue wave. A snapped neck. Paralysis from the shoulders down.

But this isn’t a story about tragedy — it’s about what you do next.

In this raw, honest conversation, Dave shares the moment his life changed forever: floating face down in the ocean, unable to move, unsure if he’d live to see another breath. What followed was surgery, a 40-day stay in rehab, and an unrelenting battle to learn how to walk again. Through it all, Dave leaned on his faith, his family, and a mindset forged by choosing resilience over self-pity.

This episode is for anyone facing hard things — whether it’s an injury, addiction, or the slow erosion of dreams. If you’ve ever needed a reason to keep going, this is it.

We talk:

  • What it feels like to face death alone in the ocean
  • How his family rallied around him in the fight of his life
  • The power of small progress and spiritual strength
  • Why mindset isn’t optional when your life flips overnight
  • His new project: “The Daily Dose Show” — giving young singers a platform to shine

This one’s powerful. Emotional. And proof that even when your body breaks, your spirit doesn’t have to.

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Brett:

It's better than what Blake and I looked like last night.

Dave:

You think, yeah, that's good Okay cool, I'm going to sit right here, have fun.

Brett:

All right.

Dave:

Trapped. You are trapped.

Brett:

All right, so you hear about it Right on. You can turn in later If I scream I don't know, dave, everybody scream. Well, awesome, there we go.

Dave:

Well, daveave welcome to the show. Are we live already? We're live already. Oh see, I thought you were in progress. Jump right into it, you know let's do it, that's. Uh, it's kind of how it goes with this uh get after it, get after it, getting after it, getting after it. I mean, yeah, we're always getting after it, you know, always finding what the next move is and all that I love that title anyway, so that's cool.

Brett:

It's good. I mean, the reason I came up with that title is I don't know if you know who Jocko Willink is. Explain, Tell me.

Brett:

He's a Navy SEAL or ex-Navy SEAL, but he was a Navy SEAL commander. Heard Navy SEAL, but he was a Navy SEAL commander and yeah, all those guys they all talk about you know you gotta get after you, gotta push yourself and put yourself out there and um I, when I was in college, I found that and um inspired you, found it all, inspired me and taught me about discipline and cool, how to work hard. So, yeah, now it's part of my life getting after it and it's it's great, because now you get to have people on like you to tell me about what you're getting after and, ultimately, some life lessons.

Brett:

So, yeah, I really appreciate you coming on tonight and just having the conversation. Happy to be here. Yeah, maybe just from the top, just introduce yourself Okay.

Dave:

Yeah, I'll go into that. And then kind of why you brought me here.

Brett:

Yeah.

Dave:

My name is Dave Daly or David Daly. Do I look at the camera or do I just look wherever I want to?

Brett:

Yeah, you can just look at it. Yeah, look at me, it's conversation. Yeah, so for dramatic effects, sometimes you can look at the camera.

Dave:

First appearance on a podcast, I got to tell you, yeah, so, david Daly, I um, I'm home here in mesa. This feels like home. I was born in utah, uh, but moved away when I was seven and my stomping grounds all here in mesa, and I know you're visiting here with mesa, with alley, but yeah, you used to live here too, gilbert oh, did you? Yeah, oh, that's right. Born and raised there you go.

Brett:

You ever been out to riggs road out there?

Dave:

that's my family, so yeah so our last house before we uh bought this one was out there and way out there, and was it a Higley and Chandler Heights.

Brett:

Oh nice, okay yeah, my grandparents live right out there I actually was most part of that. Yeah, yeah, it was crazy.

Dave:

I miss it. I love Gilbert, but the house was huge and emptiness and it was tight and then it was upstairs and this body was not doing the upstairs. So, speaking of this body, I'll get into it. Yeah, what happened? This body, what's going on?

Brett:

Yeah, what is going on? So have you told anybody.

Dave:

This is, this is. Here goes the reveals.

Brett:

This is it. Yeah, I mean, um, I can kind of set it up and then.

Dave:

I'd love for you just to go to the story, but you had a, um, pretty severe accident happened.

Brett:

Um, and the reason I wanted you to to come on and share the story is, for me, it was a story when Allie told me about pure resilience and like pushing yourself to, you know, get better and heal, and, um, yeah, I, I think it's. It's an amazing story and, um, if you don't mind, maybe taking us, you know the to the beginning memory lane, memory lane.

Dave:

Yeah, we got all night so I won't uh spare any, uh miss any stuff here. So, um, so it was eight years ago, 2017. Um, and it, I mean, it definitely was a game changer. I don't say I don't want to miss anything, so it was a family vacation. It's's that one where, um, you know, jen probably planned it for a year and a half and nobody's pregnant and nobody on a mission, uh, so everybody is attending, so where was it?

Dave:

Uh, it was in, thank you. It was in Encinita, california, which is just above La Jolla, yeah, so she got it, she got the beach house, you know, right on the beach, and uh, uh, there was probably a total of, I think, 32 of us there, grandkids in total. So, yeah, it was. It was a party. I crashed that party, but anyways, the party and, um, you know, we were in DC world and Disneyland, probably the whole thing, and, uh, we got there and it was second day in and I think we just had a day day, uh, relaxing, that we could do stuff before the big stuff happens the next few days. So, um, I remember talking to hayden, uh, which is my son, and um, carlos, which is, uh, my son-in-law, okay, and they're both at the time, probably 23 or something, I'm guessing. Yeah, yeah, somewhere in there, something like that.

Dave:

Carlos had just married, uh, alicia, which, um, she knows Allie very well, yeah, so, um, and we bought some boogie boards and that's what we were going to do, you know, playing the ocean grandkids were going to, you know, build sandcastles.

Brett:

Oh yeah, I'm the one building sandcastles, yeah I do too now.

Dave:

So, and just just fun, and I was probably, you know, too old and too fat to be out there boogie boarding, but you know I was trying too hard to uh be cool for my, my son or something yeah, so so that was the deal.

Dave:

Um, uh, we got out there and just was gonna boogie board and that and, uh, you know I did that a little bit in my youth a little bit. So got out there and the waves were pretty good that day. I mean they were, they were pretty strong and so I remember I was after two or three waves. It was strange I uh on the boogie board it. I had a thought that you know, maybe this weight and it might I could see the water rippling on the front of the board there and I'm thinking I wonder if that you know, catches and tips it forward. So maybe I should have paid attention to that thought.

Brett:

But, anyway.

Dave:

so I did have a thought there and it was literally two waves later. So, and keep in mind, we're not, we're just having fun, Go out, take a wave and go out and then come back in.

Brett:

We're not babysitting each other it wasn't too far out in the water uh, it was out their ways.

Dave:

I mean where you pick up the wave. So, yeah, not too far out. But I drifted down from jen, maybe where headquarters was with jen, probably, I don't know maybe 200 yards down, you know, because we were pretty widespread out and I had family members far away on the other side mason and other people were on the other side Anyway. So we were just having fun and getting out there and taking the waves. And it took this wave here and I remember it was a pretty good one. It picked me up and sure enough it tipped that way and I think the front did catch and tip. So when it did that, it kind of turned the boogie board like just completely sideways, so it made a wall. So so it made a wall.

Dave:

And then the I mean you respect mother nature after these type of things, I'm telling you so, um, the wave, um got behind the boogie board and kind of made a wall and I guess I held on to the boogie board, got nervous or something, but held on to it. It happened so fast. But then the wave pushed that boogie board down. Probably I'm gonna guess maybe six feet, five, six feet where that was, maybe less. So it pushed it down, held on to it and so it came down. Then I I end up hitting my my forehead and my nose just right here, right in the center of my forehead and kind of the tip of the top of the nose there, and I hit it pretty hard and it snapped my neck back and it just like cracked. You know, I thought all literally went through. My mind was wow, that was pretty wicked, I better just go in. You know, it's one of those ones where I better go take a break, yeah it wasn't that bad, just like, yeah, that was.

Dave:

That was pretty heavy you know, it rattled me around a little bit, probably like a rag doll underneath the water there and hitting the bottom. So that was what my thought was. So I came up and this is the aha moment. So, uh, it came, that's what I call. The aha moment came up and uh literally thought you better go in. So I got to move and there's nothing. So nothing from the shoulders down. So from, you know, the shoulders down, there's just. It was this most eerie, strange feeling yeah, what's that like?

Dave:

oh, I mean, you can't even explain it. So there's a, there's this, there's steps there. You know, it's felt like an eternity. Yeah, and you come up and I'm literally so now I'm in five feet of water on the ocean. Again, we're not babysitting each other, so I don't know where I've drifted to. Nobody's really watching me. So you're, I'm in, let's say, five feet of water and I'm facing, uh, down, just floating, you know, face down into the in the ocean there, and then your mind starts to turn over.

Brett:

no, no shoulders there. So so then the thoughts happen, you know, face down into the, in the ocean there, and then your mind starts to turn over no, no shoulders there.

Dave:

So so then the thoughts happen. You know, this is it. I'm done because we're not babysitting each other. So, um, I'm thinking, how long do I have in this type of thing? So, um, I'm going to guess. Um, probably two minutes went by and I'll tell you what happened. I don't know if you're a spiritual person I know you are Absolutely but there's a lot of things that happened at the time. I know we have a lot of things in life that things happen to us, and this is one of those. So, face down there for probably just shy of two minutes that's a long time, by all intents and purposes.

Dave:

I should have freaked out, you know, probably First of all taking some salt water. Yeah, freaked out there and tried to scream or do something. Couldn't move, but was really calm, really calm, eerie calm, so very calm, but just had a lot of deep thoughts, like you know. Anyway, it's that's kind of hard to explain, but very, you know this aha moment, just sitting there, and next thing, you know, um, carlos, which elise's husband, so I call him my, the protector, or the guardian angel he, uh yeah, I'll get up on tangents here he comes up and next thing, you know, he's grabbing my shoulder and tips me up and I'll never forget I made eye contact right at Carlos and I look at him and I said I broke my neck, get me in. So you know, we're in five feet of water and as the waves swell it ends up six feet and you go down to five. So it's doing that.

Dave:

So he's a stud. He just he grabs me Hayden's off, I think, taking a wave. He has no clue. Yeah so, but Carlos, so I'll back up here he doesn't take a wave and just felt inspired not to take that wave and to look for me. So this is what he tells me In the hospital. I asked him like what did you do, anyway? So he just said he felt inspired not to take the wave and I want to make sure, get everything here. He looks at whatever I'll call my protector. He's looking and he sees the boogie board just flowing with nothing and it's a good distance away. So he hightails it over there and swims to me. I'm back up and then he gets to me and he grabs my shoulder and lifts me up and he said there was blood all over, like the head, and because it was, you know, it's one of them, things that just kind of tears.

Dave:

It wasn't terrible, but it bleed a lot.

Brett:

So you show me the, you sent me the picture.

Dave:

Yeah, I sent a few pictures, just so you get an idea looks like you're. Yeah, it's like a big scab here and there, but I guess that you know I couldn't see it, but I guess it bleeds a lot. So he, he thought I got bit by a shark. He didn't know really yeah, so that's what he told me, so I I thought you get the bite. That would have been a cool story. I should I tell people that sometimes you should see the show?

Brett:

you fought the shark.

Dave:

Yeah, I killed the shark, broke his jaw. Yeah, that'd probably be a cooler story than this one, but better tell the truth. So, um, am I talking too loud in this mic? No, it's perfect.

Dave:

Carlos comes up and I look at him just straight in the eyes and I must have been like, oh my gosh, I'm saved. Um, I said I broke my neck and get me in. So he's five nine and he can barely stand up. Out there, one of those swells comes. He probably. You know he's, he's not, he's not going to stand.

Dave:

So he just takes me, his little stay, just takes me and lifts me, propels probably had a lot of adrenaline going at the time too but propels me out of the water and he's like hold on, he's from Chihuahua, oh wow, hold on, hold on, dave, hold on. So he's just hold on, hold on. So he's got my back and he's just literally lifting me out of the water and he's going to love this when he watches this podcast. But he lifts me out of the water and as he's backing out, just trying to back up slowly towards the shore, and he's screaming Hayden, hayden. And then Hayden sees what's going on as he's walking up, so then Hayden joins and gets on my feet. So anyway, that went on for however long it took to get me into shore there, and they get me in there, and then then by that time there starts to be a little bit of buzz. What's going on there?

Dave:

and um, uh, they get me pretty much into shore there and, uh, people just start surrounding around chris, the, the oldest son, which is my stepson jen's oldest. He's a dentist now but yeah, he was doing doctor type stuff, so he became the, the doctor, so to speak. He, you know, telling me what to do and got around, he was kind of kneeling behind my head and I just remember there's a crowd around me and it's just, I'm like I just I get really uh, um, silly. In those moments you think you freak out, but I, I crack in jokes and people are like is he serious? Serious, is you know? Is he drugged? And I just I don't know why it is Maybe nervous behavior or something.

Brett:

I mean there's probably a lot of it going through you too.

Dave:

Yeah, I just cause I remember one one thing. I'm sitting there and I'm laying there. This is a true story. I'm laying there and I look I'm somebody out Mason or somebody who's there and I go, are my feet in the air right now? And Mason's like no, and I'm like I think I said shit, shit, because it felt swearing Sorry, bishop, he'll forgive you for this. It felt like my feet were up in the air because of the sensation and they're on the ground. And I knew something like okay, okay, what is going on? Because it felt like they're suspended in the air, like somebody's holding them. They're on the ground. I'm like all right, what is going on? So they're assessing and you know I think chris knew that I probably paralyzed myself. And there's there's a difference between um and I'll probably get this into it's called incomplete, incomplete. You probably know what that means.

Dave:

I actually don't, yeah, so complete on an injury like this, complete would be Christopher Reeve. That's where it snapped or broke and you're paralyzed. So I was incomplete. Meaning it's like a train wreck in there and I'll tell you more about that in surgery, tell you about more about that in surgery. But, um, there's still something smaller for that brain to send some, yeah, neurons through that spine. You know a little area, yeah. So, um, didn't, man, I'll hold on here.

Brett:

So uh well, in this moment, were you feeling pain, or was it just like you feel these weird sensations? That's a good question.

Dave:

Um, I was probably in shock a little bit. No, I'd say no pain. I remember there was no pain, just a little nervous. And then a nurse came by and they were just getting around. There started to be a little bit of crowd and it was a little hype and I remember Alicia was running down the beach and she's like call 911. I call her Paul Revere, call 911. Call 911.

Brett:

Got Paul Revere in the car. British Air Company she was calling 911.

Dave:

She was running down the beach yelling it, so I guess nobody had the phone. So they get down to Jen. Nothing is said to Jen, so they get that Jen has the phone. That's working. So she knew something was going on in the distance, because it's literally probably I don't know maybe two football fields away yeah, not too far.

Dave:

Right, it's a distance there, but she could see some commotion down there. So her phone was working or had the phone. So he got communicator to call 9-1-1 and so, jen, I shouldn't laugh jen uh dials 9-1 and starts to communicate that they need to get somebody out here, there's some serious injury or whatever. So she's walking towards me and that morning I also went to Walmart and bought a new swimsuit. Okay, so the reason, I tell you that, as she's walking and telling I don't know who it is, blah, blah, blah, she sees the swimsuit and she just realizes it's me and that was her aha moment. Yeah, so I should let her tell the story. But she collapses Because she knows it's me and it's hard, I'm not saying that. So she collapses and she can't communicate. This wasn't hard on me, it was hard on everybody. Yeah, but this is not just wasn't hard on me, it was hard on everybody. But she can't communicate. I mean, she was a mess, I was laughing and making jokes, she was a mess. So I love you, honey, but you were a mess. So she loses it and I think Callie, the other daughter, she takes over the phone and continues to do that and then she makes her way to me and, you know, just crying, gets to me and kisses me. And then she makes her way to me and, uh, you know, just crying, gets to me and gets me. And I said it's, you know that type of thing. And just lean over me. I said you know, babe, it's going to be okay, it's going to be all right. You know, I'm really.

Dave:

People say my kids and my family, I'm. They always tease me and say I'm, it could have been worse. I'm always the it could have been worse. I mean, if there's something wrong, it could have been worse. They always Satser joke with me. They always say it could have been worse. So it's just, I don't want to pat myself on the back. It's just innate in me to do that. I mean it's a good quality. But I don't know, maybe to a fault, I just do that and I could be laying there paralyzed and saying could be worse. So Jen gets to me. So I just feel bad for that situation. I can't imagine that.

Brett:

You just imagine the collapse. You see, it's your husband. Now that I'm married, it's like that's my biggest fear. It's like, if anything happened to me, how Allie would perceive it.

Dave:

When we tell the story, jen's telling it to somebody in the ward and sisters they all start crying. You know it's tough if you put yourself in that situation. Yeah, so that happens. And then she gets to me and there's just some drama there. I'm holding still and I'm doing that. I don't know how long that period was for a while, and then it's like Baywatch or what is that show with the thing? Oh yeah.

Dave:

Baywatch the truck pulls up and they're doing the doing, they're doing the thing. What's your call, wasn't there? Oh yeah, david hasselhoff.

Brett:

That's good job. Yeah, you know who that is. I know some of those guys.

Dave:

Oh yeah, he was actually in the spongebob movie, yeah, so um, yeah, I think some vehicle pulls up and their job was to do. They took over and they put me on a stretcher and to get me almost a ways down to where the helicopter could land, so yeah, so they get me down to a certain location, get me on there. I'll back up a little bit. Here's another emotional thing here. So I'm there and of course you know I wanted a blessing, as you know. But in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, situations like this sometimes we'd ask for a priesthood blessing and it's a blessing of healing and faith. And here I have my son, that's six days home from a mission, so six days home from a mission, and I'm asking him to give him a blessing on that situation. So that was tough. Yeah, there was a lot of emotions.

Dave:

Yeah, I mean yeah, that's that's, and it could have been worse. That's heavy it worked, so he's doing that. And then, uh, um, they get it over, get me over to the area where the helicopter lands, so they did call him the life flight or whatever it's called. And, um, it's just, you know, you can hear the helicopter, and then it gets really real just the noises and all that. And they come on and they're really cool people there with a home.

Brett:

Yeah.

Dave:

And they're jerking me around. So I knew I did something really bad and I remember I kept saying they're jerking me around on that stretch getting me in there and I'm bouncing around, I kept saying, hey, save. When I said, save what you got, case, hey, save what you got, because my head was bouncing around. Yeah and that girl that was, there was two guys and a girl and she's looking at me like, oh my gosh, this guy is nuts.

Brett:

But I just was worried that she was going to paralyze me well, I've always heard like you know, if someone hurts their neck, you don't touch it.

Dave:

Yeah Well, they wouldn't touch me, but they would bounce around. My neck was bouncing, oh geez I kept saying hey, hey, hey, safe what you got. Yeah, be careful. You know, they probably thought it was nuts. I think they had me stiff, but I was nervous, yeah. So there you go, I get the free helicopter right holy cow about I think a half mile yeah, so I mean it was this?

Dave:

is it went to la jolla yeah trauma center? I think it was yeah, la jolla trauma center and that's literally encinitas probably be 15 miles north of la jolla man. So, um, I lucked out that, lucked out that trauma center has the best neck surgeons in the world some of the best there, and one of them in particular was one that worked on me, so that part was good.

Dave:

Yeah, that's another blessing right there yeah, it was so, and I'll tell you what the injury was here as we move forward. Hopefully am I making this too long and boring no, this is great.

Brett:

I was going to ask you on your on your way to the stop me when you need to ask yeah, on your way to the hospital, when you're in the helicopter, was it just you, no family members, no family members, and you must have been fully conscious during this time. Oh yeah, like, have any thoughts. Those are good questions, so never unconscious.

Dave:

Yeah, so in the water. Yeah, never took any salt water and never freaked out. So the whole time conscious, never went out. Yeah, good question, never in pain. Unconscious, never went out. Yeah, a good question, never in pain. But uh, a lot of I don't know shock or a lot of, a lot of emotions, a lot of uncertainty, yeah, like, yeah, it's going on, you know, and it's a, it's a, it's a freaky thing you know to do that.

Dave:

I can't imagine so it's just and it's just. You know, when you think back now, it's just surreal as you play it through your mind. So, anyway, so the little man, the copter, so yeah, no it. You imagine it's pretty tight. It's not like getting an ambulance, you know. So it was the two, three professionals and the one driving the helicopter, flying the helicopter, driving, yeah, so, uh, they do that and they take off and it literally was a short ride, um, and they get me over there and you know, they're doing their thing and they, they get in there and the doctor comes in and I'm in there waiting and there's sand all over me because we're on the beach and I'm trying to get the sand all off me. So the next thing to do is they see if it's complete or incomplete. They don't know. I mean, I'm paralyzed, but when you mess with the spine like that, the effect is being paralyzed.

Brett:

So they don't know if it's complete, or you get some back, or whatever.

Dave:

So they do a test and they go down by your bum and they can check things there and if there's a contraction or thing like that, then they'll know it's incomplete because, then there's a reaction or what's a reflex.

Brett:

Yeah, yeah.

Dave:

I'm probably not saying the right word, but something, something happens, yeah, so, yeah, so I wasn't. So that was good news. Yeah, this is what the doctor said I'm going to get real personal with your husband. And then I should have just said that the doctor was going to get real personal with me and see if I'm complete or incomplete. So so the good news was, as I was I can't believe, I just said that on the air here but, um, it was incomplete, which is good, um, uh, but it looked like a train wreck in there. So what I didn't did, as I didn't break my neck, the action snapped my neck back and it pinched the spine close. So that's what happened, wow okay, so I had pictures of it.

Dave:

Then you can show it and it's, you know, you can see like in an x-ray. You can see the small. It looks like a road with a line on it and then it's just pinched closed and there's just a real small area there that there's just a little bit open there and that's the brain now has to work through that smaller and signals to everything. Yeah, so then that's why you know the chasm at the time is paralyzed. And then your body is amazing what it does in healing and it's very resourceful.

Brett:

Yeah.

Dave:

You know I've learned that in therapy, but at the time it was just good news there. At the first it was incomplete. So then I stayed at the Loha Hospital hospital I'll kind of speed this up for 12 days and they scheduled I think I had the surgery like two or three days later. The swelling or something had to go down and they literally um, went through the front here and they, when they do that, um, they cut here and then they open up so that I think it's easier to get to the spinal cord and the discs that are there and they put tracks in there or cages, um, to kind of it's like there was a train wreck in there and they just kind of fix it into where and hopefully there'll be some recovery.

Dave:

Yeah, yeah, and so I asked a neurologist one time. You're like you know, that gets pinched, really the thing does it just, does it kind of grow back?

Dave:

and he's like no, so it's, it just gets pinched and it stays there because it's a nerve, right, yeah, it just doesn't grow back, it just stays pinched and it tries to work through that area and the fluid just fills in. I guess I don't know that's crazy, so weird, so, and there's a lot, you know, there's stem cell and all that stuff. I mean there's so many things, it's like it's overwhelming.

Brett:

Did you try the stem cells?

Dave:

No, I have a brother-in-law that told me I should. I mean, there's probably so many things you know that I in your rehab and ask my wife you could be doing. I think I did really well, really well. I'll get into that here in a minute. Yeah, but then I kind of plateaued out and stay there and I'm kind of where I'm at now. So 12 days there, massive surgery, like I said, crashed that party.

Dave:

They stayed the five days and they still continued to do the things there. But I'm sure it was kind of hard because they're all worried about you, yeah so they tried to continue to do what we're doing and did that.

Dave:

And then, you know, Jen stayed there with me, so did the surgery. I mean it was crazy at the time. We were literally moving from Utah to Arizona, back to Arizona, so we were going to do that trip and come back to Arizona. My wife was selling the house in Utah and I remember I was at the hospital, we had to sign for the house or whatever and I couldn't move. So I held the pen and the lady moved the paper to do the signature. So it was that bad. So surgery got that. And then they did the ambulance ride from California because I was going to check in and health south, it's called, which is a rehab there and right on the border of mesa and gilbert okay, so baseline, yeah, health south it's called something else now, but all the way from california, yeah, that was an expensive ambulance ride seven thousand dollars, I have all the the figures there.

Brett:

Forty thousand for the helicopter yeah, yeah, so like I think it was 6800 for the ambulance ride.

Dave:

Yeah, holy cow.

Dave:

Yeah, it was a long ride there, so they do that and then um 40 days in rehab. So that was a an adventure. I have new respect for pts and ots. They're amazing, the care and, uh, I still have a really good relationship with Celeste, my main person there, and she was going to have me walk and I mean, that's when that video is she starts crying. She just she saw the moment when I was doing physical therapy where she knew I was getting it. She knew of my rotation of my hips and I was standing up like those parallel bars there's such a picture of that.

Dave:

Yeah, and she knew at the moment the way I was walking and she couldn't get me out of it quick enough because she knew I'd be able to do a walker and walk and so, sure enough, we do that and she's trying not to cry and so I'm walking for the first time. So there's just, it's amazing, yeah, it's 40 days of that, so I had to learn how to walk again. There's I'm missing so many things, but there is uh a ton of things there in that 40 days of physical therapy, um, that you learn a lot, I mean you're. I mentioned uncertainty. I still don't know.

Dave:

You know how, what, how I'm gonna, what's gonna become? Uh, am I gonna be in a wheelchair, am I gonna be able to walk, and so, um, but I can honestly say you know, jan, poor Jan, she's coming here trying to run her deal, her dealership, her business that she'd moved to Arizona, that she was working from, from Utah, still keep my car dealership going. So I had a car dealership that was moving to Arizona, arizona, yeah, trying to keep that active, and her plate was to say it was super full yeah, it was crazy man, it's respect to the wives and straight and stressed over that.

Dave:

I don't know how she did it.

Brett:

I mean prayers, yeah yeah, it sounds like you. You honestly had help from the other side. 100, yeah there was.

Dave:

We had our old warden in utah praying for us and our new warden, gilbert. And when I say thousands of prayers, thousands of prayers, and when you say that it's easy to say that, but then you really feel thousands of prayers, there's that many people praying for you, there is a noticeable presence and faith, and I'm a positive guy, but I could feel that for sure, for sure. And I have a friend, reggie. I could feel that for sure, for sure. And, um, I have a friend Reggie. Uh, I told you about him, but anyway, he, he came to visit me and he's like yeah, exactly On some runs.

Dave:

Uh, he came and he said like you're acting like the mayor of uh of the uh of the clinic there. I was just uh, uh, um, it's going to be okay, type guy in there. I very, very positive and uh, uh, not because I'm a great guy, it's just, it's just cause what we know, you know, that's what we do and I think whether our upbringing, uh in the church and some of the faith and some of the principles we have it makes it not easy but easier to handle hard things Absolutely. I think we know that somebody has always had it harder than us, so that puts things in perspective. And so if he didn't, well, for example, there was a gal and I think the nurse is just like how are you so positive? I don't mean to brag about myself, but I say that, but I'm contributing that to our upbringing.

Dave:

I say our, because you have had a similar one our upbringing. I know I'm a positive person, but I'm grateful for what I've learned. That helps in those scenarios.

Brett:

Does that make sense? Absolutely, I mean, I think, in in all difficult situations I've been through and nothing to your extent, but I've had to rely on faith and I've had to rely on God and, um, trust that whatever happens is is going to make me better. And it might, you know, be difficult going through it, but you know, at the end of the day, I know that I'm going to be refined.

Brett:

Um, yeah, I mean, I can't imagine what, you know, going through 40 days of therapy was like and that kind of thing, how to walk um, learning how to walk again, like, like you said, like there must have been so much uncertainty yeah, um, I mean maybe discouragement, and well, I'll talk about that.

Dave:

Yeah, like, how'd you get going'll talk about that. Yeah, how'd you get going? We talk about that. And I start, I think back and think how many days did we, my wife and I, talk and say you know, this sucks? I can honestly tell you, probably twice.

Brett:

Really yeah.

Dave:

Out of all that. That's what I mean. There was maybe one cry session like this is not the plan.

Dave:

It wasn't the plan, but it was more, like this is not the plan. It wasn't the plan, but it was more, and this is your show. It was roll up your sleeves and get after it, and that's all I knew and my mind was I'm not going to be this fat guy in a wheelchair. So now I'm just not in a wheelchair, I'm the fat guy. That was a joke, anyway. So I told myself you know and I think the dealership was some motivation there, and I just remember I was, you know, I'm finding my dealership to do it on what's it called the GPS or Google Maps.

Dave:

I'm finding the dealership and the zoning, all on the go. I can't go drive anywhere. So anyway, I was really motivated, but the 40 days in there, sorry, I'm gonna. I'm gonna back up here a little bit, but I was talking about the church and the faith and what it does. But like five doors south of me, where my room was, um, there was a gal that she'd been shot. There was a man a fight with her husband and some alcohol but he shot, but I think it was complete, um, wherever it did, but it paralyzed her yeah and I remember they asked me would you go visit with her?

Dave:

you know, with the positivity, and I did, and of course her situation was melamorgalom, but the feeling when you go in there, um, it's just harder and there's just no faith in the sadness, you know, and I said, are you spiritual? And she goes, I haven't been, I said she's like I better start, and anyway, but it was just um, just a recognizable difference, you know, and so those things I'm, I'm grateful for, not just there but in life yeah, absolutely that they do um help.

Dave:

I earlier you mentioned there. It's one of those things I say I'm a fixer, you know, with my kids or something, I always feel like I can fix it, I can fix it, and then some things in life are just bigger than what we can do you can't fix it and that's when you have to turn it over to him.

Dave:

The father and this was one of them, so you know, when you're 40 days in there, brett you're my wife goes home at 11 o'clock at night and starts her day and she's got to make that 12-mile drive back to Gilbert from there and oh, I just can't imagine and I'm laying there in that hospital bed. There's just so much time to think.

Brett:

I can't imagine that your perspective changes in life.

Dave:

It definitely changed me. I hope I'm a better man from it. But yeah, me I. I hope I'm a better man from it. But yeah, your perspective on things changes. It definitely does. My wife is amazing through it all. It's not my journey, it's our journey. What happened so um 40 days there? Um, just the crew there was amazing. But everything I had to learn how to eat, that's the you know um occupational therapy you know, I have videos that are just crazy.

Dave:

But I think back and look at it and I'm like, wow, I did that. I couldn't do this, you know, type of thing.

Brett:

That's got to make you feel good. It does. I've seen the progress from the American.

Dave:

I can sit there and I can do both. I'm like I ain't got to go to the gym more Because when I raise, well, that arm goes up and I'm gonna raise here, it gets really tight right here. So, here here, and then like the hip flexors, it that, whatever happens neurologically, attacks those areas. So, like the muscle to lift your leg up, like it's take to lift up, yeah, that muscle, the hip flexor abductor, that right there, it's just attacks, it's weak, it's so weakened and if you don't work at it, literally this right here, it's just. I have a picture at swim pool and I'm grabbing one of the grandkids and it's just sunk in right there. Not that I was big before, but that muscle that's there, just just. Uh, you can say atrophy or whatever but it was only 40 days.

Brett:

I think it's just anyway, that muscle just goes away yeah it's crazy, that's yeah, yeah, it's, it's crazy, but so at this time, like therapy, was that's your full-time job.

Dave:

It's like I gotta get better I gotta, I gotta focus on what I can do to I'm proud of what I did, but I you can always do more, you know and get after and go to the gym, and I didn't do that. I kind of plateaued out. And still today I can do more. Ask my wife.

Brett:

We all can. Let's be honest.

Dave:

And I could because you know I'm 63. So you know what does 73 look like? Because I move like I'm 73. So I got to ask myself in 10 years how bad it will be. But if I get after it and do things, I will counter what. Because I'm behind the eight ball because of this injury.

Brett:

So I want to serve a mission, so there's things I need to do to help that. Be around for the grandkids, that kind of stuff, you know. Yeah, exactly, yeah, I mean is there? Is there still pain, like when you're going through?

Dave:

the therapy. You ask all the right questions. So like is there pain today? No, when you say pain, pain it's not like an ouch pain, it's a uh, more like yeah. So I can give you an example. Give you an example like today this is what I have when I don't have my tram at all for four days. I realize how bad it is because it's like tram was like a band-aid and I and if people are like you know it's addictive I'm like hello what else am I gonna do?

Brett:

you give me some homoepathic medicine.

Dave:

I'll take it. So, um, but yeah, I don't take it. For you know, I say the medicine doesn't come in. I'm four days without it. I notice that it's a difference and I can still walk, but it's painful. So what happens is like if you ever is your leg ever fallen asleep where it's just so heavy, you can walk and it's just like pins and needles and yeah, it's the worst, so it's like that, okay, so that's what my pain is, that's you kind of get used to it.

Dave:

Yeah, that's what the legs feel like. So the injury it's not complete, but they're. They're numb all the time, oh man. So the medicine kind of takes the edge off, but they're just heavy, they just feel like they weigh 100 pounds. Yeah, so you're, that's what I was saying earlier. Your body's I mean your body adjusts and adapts how to walk on those heavy legs. My left leg's stronger, so you'll see me walk. The left leg boom takes a step. The right one you know how they talk that drag foot. You know you have to pick up because that's the heavy leg and so I kind of slide it, but I should lift it up more, but it's that kind of stuff that's so interesting that happens just from that one injury, yeah.

Dave:

Different sides of the injury. Yeah, different, very much body and, yeah, very much like a stroke. Yeah, the injuries, they put me in the stroke unit. But the symptoms, you know, the neurological stuff, it would appear like I had a wow, yeah, ish, that type thing, but different injury, um, did you ever know? Um, maybe you know this guy, oh, what's his last name? Rotten rising power. Rotten Risen Howard. He played baseball, pitched baseball, but he was up in Utah and he was in a rail and it spun and he had a brain injury. I don't think so. I don't know, oh, probably not, but he's your guy's age. But anyway, he got injured and he came, he was with me. Oh, wow, and same type of thing. It's a miracle story here, but anyway, I thought you might you know, but he was in there with me anyway.

Dave:

So, um, so, yeah, back to what I was saying. Probably, I'm probably getting off on tangents here. 40 days in there gives you a lot of time to think. Um, perspective changes and I'm grateful for that. But then, finally, after the 40 days time to come home and that was a, you know, these are milestones you come home and still need a lot of care. Again, my wife, she's my caretaker, so she's working full-time job keeping the dealership going dude, so many hats, and then now she's going to be my caretaker at home. When I say caretaker, I mean there's a lot of work, yeah, required for me. You know, at the very beginning, at the first, not now, not today, but um, well, she might pick up one of my dishes, take it to the sink, yeah, but I did that before man so I mean, that's that's got to be something that, yeah, I can't imagine that not bringing you guys so much closer though yeah, at the time we never fought, but it was a lot.

Dave:

There was some tears there. But I think you, when you're in it, you don't, you just do it. And then when you after you look at like, wow, you know, how do we get through that? Yeah, but when you're in it, you just do, you know you just get after it, oh please, yeah, what's it called again?

Brett:

name of the podcast getting after it, after it yeah, exactly so.

Dave:

Um that so came home, required a lot of care, but the swimming pool was huge. So therapy I mean, you're in the pool walking, can't fall, fall into what? The water? Yeah, that's true, I literally. I got home about the time of the summers there and I got in that pool every day and walked and walked and I think that got me to the dealership faster. So my goal was to get back to the dealership.

Brett:

How long were your therapy sessions on your own like, was it?

Dave:

um well I did it good, good point. I did it, um, for the 40 days there and they would take you like three times a day and go and with it. But then I went back a few times it, but I didn't go back much. I probably should went back more after I left, went back and then I kind of just self-therapied the pool and did things. A friend from high school came and built me like a balance bar, like a ballet bar, oh, yeah.

Dave:

Did that and Kenny Kelly I'll mention his name Anyway just kind of got after it and got pretty close. I mean I did do a lot more then than, but got to you kind of plateau. Plateau out to a certain level there, but back to um getting to work and stuff. And you just get better every day, realize I could drive and doing things, you know, always. I remember when I had this little smart car and it was the first car I drove and I got a little emotional because I'm like, okay, cool, I can drive. You know these little things like. And then I I was with mason and I wanted to drive that little five speed. He's like you can't drive. I put the walker in the back and let's go. When I drove it, some things don't go away. Yeah, you know it might look a little awkward, but you can still got it.

Dave:

So driving is good, yeah, so you know people get nervous like that right foot gas to break might be a little slow when people have their right with me a little, I'm just like, is that?

Brett:

foot gonna get over there I know well, I know how slow it is, but I could see how yeah, I could see how nervous they were my brother was just doing that today anyway.

Dave:

So, um, yeah, so home and the swimming pool, and I got after it and started getting that and got back to the dealership and guess what, about a year later, covet hit.

Dave:

So I shut that down so, um, so yeah, that was pretty much it as far as the injury. You probably have some questions on that, but um, that was the story there and then went, you know, back to the dealership and and got going there and then covet hit and then uh, kind of closed that down and so, just so you know today, um, I wanted to know what I was going to do with this injury. You know I still move around but there's a lot of jobs I can't do. Um, the dealership was tough, you know, because there was a hustler out there moving around walking around on the sales floor and I can, oh, yeah, or the auction.

Dave:

You go on your wow, you got there I was. You know, prior to that I was always hopping just around doing that, but you, but you can't, you know, so it was hard. Uh, covid almost was a blessing, because it couldn't keep up and we knew it was going to shut down. It kind of answered the question there.

Brett:

So, uh, we lost the business during COVID too, my brothers and I. So, yeah, I mean, it was a rough time for sure.

Dave:

So then it forces you into hard things. What am I going to do? So I started Ubering in between there it was beating the car off. I'm like, what am I going to do? And then Hayden, my son. He was doing the job I'm at now. It's called Select Quote and it's Medicare health insurance.

Dave:

Oh nice, yeah, and they provide all the leads for you. So you have to go get your life insurance and health insurance mainly Okay, you go test and you get that, and so you work for them. So I've been there three, going on four years now, and he's been there a year before me and he kills it. He's a total stud. So that's why I saw the money he's making. I'm like, hmm, I could do that.

Dave:

Sure enough I mean going to make it here. They're teasing me, but sure enough, I passed them and did really well, so you just I love that you put your mind to it.

Brett:

Yeah, I was in there, bring out the old car. Yeah, there was a team.

Dave:

there was a. I started there and you know, I got the job. I interviewed and I knew I could do sales, so I got the job and they hire and they have an onboarding person. You need to go get your license and do this or do that. But I was intimidated. I knew I was going to be working the training team class. It was all on Zoom, so there was probably 80 or 90 of us in the class and you have 10. And there was a bunch of 30-year-olds and I'm like you know, they're tech things, I'm old, I'm like, oh my gosh, and you know they teased me. I was, but I mean, as soon as we got out, I I surpassed and went to level one and and not to brag, but I just I want to prove to myself that yeah, yeah and so then I was laughing at that yeah, there you go.

Brett:

Yeah, you guys are the dust right, yeah, so it.

Dave:

It ended up being just a good job and still is. I'm grateful I can pay the bills and do that. I'm just grateful for it. I mean, I get to work across the hall in my jammies to go to work.

Brett:

That's pretty nice, that is pretty nice yeah.

Dave:

So that works out. So I'm blessed that happened there and there's so much more leaving out there. But yeah, I mean, that was kind of in a nutshell what happened there.

Brett:

It's amazing. I mean that is a wild story.

Dave:

Yeah. But, we can do hard things though. We can do hard things, yeah, we definitely can.

Brett:

That's one that you know is incredibly difficult. Like that's something I think about, and I've I've talked to people who have had injuries that are similar to yours. Like I've I've had, um, uh, a person named Rob Jones on this podcast. He, he was a bomb technician in Afghanistan, wow, and so he was the guy with the you know, the metal detector in front of the. Humvees and everything. And one day he stepped on an IED and he actually came on this podcast and talked about his story.

Dave:

How do you find these people? Do they get referred or something?

Brett:

I looked him. He's actually one of Jocko's friends and so, because of that, I just reached out to their entire team and I was like, hey, would anyone want to be on him? Pretty much so because of that, like, I just reached out to their entire team and it was like, hey, is it, would anyone want to be on? Pretty much so, um, but the way he, uh, I remember him. The most impactful thing from his story that he told me was he tells a story like he lost both his legs, um, above the knee, and he had this moment where he was in the hospital and his mom was on his way to, or on her way to, come and see him. It was the first time that she was going to see him and he's like I don't want her to see me like this, like I look terrible. And so he's like talking to the nurses and he goes do you guys have a funny hat?

Brett:

Like a random, weird hat or anything like that and um, they found some pirate hat in in the in the hospital and they're like why do you want? You want this. And and he pretty much looked at them and was like. You know, I either have the opportunity to make the most of this, or to give in and become.

Dave:

You know, lieutenant dan from forrest gump and just get it. Dan yeah, lieutenant, dan um my wife's name, jenny that's pretty good.

Brett:

You got a good impression actually jen's.

Dave:

My wife has never seen that show. I'm like what?

Brett:

really yeah, but you know, I mean we might have to have a movie night a date night? I'm not a smart man, jenny but I know what love is that's pretty good.

Dave:

Actually, I have a track to see in here.

Brett:

Yeah, that's good. But I just remember that part of the story and how he pretty much just came to the conclusion that he has two ways to go about this. Wow collusion, that he has two ways to go about this. Wow, you know, he could be the victim or he could. Yeah, that's amazing, yeah. And the story after that is wild because he went on to be um, a bronze medalist in Paralympic rowing, and then he biked across America to raise money for veterans. And then the craziest one is he like I don't even think I could do this, as he ran 31 marathons in 31 days, um on prosthetics and the stories he told about that were wild. But, um, I mean, it sounds like you had a very similar mindset.

Dave:

Well, it's in our mindset maybe not experience, but I like that. You said that the mindset is you're going to get after it. Yeah, it's a, it's a mindset. You know, I could have felt sorry for myself and uh, like a whole home and sorry for myself but it's not my nature. I contribute to. I'm grateful that it's in me, but I'm grateful my upbringing in the church and just things ways that I've been taught and that it helps yeah, I mean and friends and family.

Dave:

You know there's so many helps there that you get after it all right. It's easier to. That's just the thing to do yeah, you know, I'm literally cried and said this sucks for one hour, you know, and and then rope your sleeves, yeah, and see what you can do.

Brett:

But yeah, um, that is one thing I'd love to hear about is is kind of your experience with um, with with God, during that time with what with God Interesting, Um, and yeah, I mean with whatever you're comfortable sharing.

Dave:

No, yeah, cause I know it's probably very spiritual.

Dave:

I considered I served a mission. I consider it myself to be a spiritual person. I've made a lot of mistakes in my life a lot, brett but um, um, it changed me in a way, that that perspective, you, you think of things in more of an eternal perspective. When that happens, uh, you know, like I said, with the uncertainty, it it forces you to to relook at things. You know, I, I'm sure when you thought, yeah, this is it, I'm, I'm gonna die here. Yeah, here, you know, floating there, nobody knows I'm here and I have a another minute here before I start freaking out and it's too late, you know, I mean, I would that had to be right around the corner.

Brett:

Yeah, that's without carlos, you know that's another thing.

Dave:

Let's talk about carlos for a minute. But without carlos you know it's right there what would have happened? You know it should have, could have, would have, but it is what it is. So you know, and I remember Carlos come to the hospital and I just wanted to talk to him. I'm like Carlos, why? What? You know I think he has a hard time answering the question. I'm like you know, I wanted to know. How did you know what's going on? And you, how did you know what's going on? Whenever? I still to this day, when I ask him, he gets a little emotional and a little tear in his eye. He's very quiet, very humble about it. He's a good guy. I'm grateful that he lived such a life that he was in tune to be, inspired.

Brett:

Not to take the wave.

Dave:

Imagine if not I'm not here today, right, so um you know, I'm grateful carlos, thanks for living right yeah, yeah, we, we joke. We say he's my new favorite son-in-law, they're all my favorites I love him to death, but he's a he's a special guy.

Dave:

He definitely saved my life. So but that the the family over this. They all mean so much to me in different ways. They were all such team players in this situation and came to aid for me. There's no doubt I had different experiences and I remember Hayden was young, so he kept asking one of the other brother-in-laws. He was like my dad can be okay, my dad can be okay. So he kept asking one of the other brother-in-laws and he's like my dad can be okay, my dad can be okay, so he's nervous and I just can't imagine what it was like for them as well you know, and for me.

Dave:

So it was a game changer.

Brett:

Did that run through your head, like when you're in therapy and everything, and you know everyone's worried about you and they want to make sure that you're going to be okay, like like they're all asking did you think about them and was that like motivation for you to, you know, roll up your sleeves a little bit more?

Dave:

And no, not really. I didn't. That's a good question, but no, not, I wouldn't say that's that's a dishonest answer. I didn't. That didn't drive me. It was more um, well, I don't know if there's pride there. I do want to get better. I mean there's a little bit there, but it was mainly just get. After that. It's hard to define really when you're in there. I'll tell you a story. It's hard to define how you do it. All I know is there was so much time to think. You asked the question earlier. What was your relationship with God? It changed there. I felt like I was going to church and like that and a spiritual person, and I think I'm so much better now. But I just think I process it differently. Does that make sense?

Dave:

yeah, I think so spiritual things right. I maybe I'm grateful more. I don't know, but I just think I process it differently. Does that make sense? Yeah, I think so Spiritual things Right. Maybe I'm grateful more about certain things, and I hope that shows in me as a father, as a grandfather and I hope so. I know, I can only ask other people.

Brett:

I mean from my experience just talking to you and hearing your story and understanding. I think that is the case. It seems like you're a very grateful person.

Dave:

I hope that it does change and I hope it does. I was going to say something to you with it. What were you starting to talk about?

Brett:

I lost my train of thought, it's okay, it happens a lot on the podcast.

Dave:

Yeah, there was probably so many different things there, but I was going to say something about that, yeah, but anyway, um, yeah it. Oh gosh, it's kind of ready to come back to me. But I was laughing. You said sometimes you just have to the guy that says where's the hat, or whatever.

Dave:

So, same way, I was telling you some things when I first showed up here, you do have to kind of make fun of yourself and have fun. My grandkids, you know, my grandkids all don't know me, as when this accident happened, you know it was oh how many years ago.

Brett:

it was eight years ago and the oldest one the oldest one is is 16.

Dave:

Okay, so most of them don't know me, but with this, you know, and there's 16 grandkids today, so they only know me as this. Um, but uh, one thing that my hand does, I'll put it to the camera here. So look see if I can get the right angle. But I go like this so you can see it flipping right there. That's called clonus and I call it my flipper whoo it is going to town right now, so look at the more I do it's performing camera.

Brett:

Yeah, look at it, it is performing check.

Dave:

Check it out. I always tell people can you flip your hand that fast?

Brett:

I don't think I can.

Dave:

It's just one thing in life.

Brett:

There, you go.

Dave:

I'm the fastest flipper in the world You're the fastest flipper. So I tell my grandkids that it's like Finding Nemo, my little flipper.

Brett:

Oh yeah.

Dave:

Finding Nemo, that. So you gotta work stuff. You got. You know disneyland, I get the return pass all the time. You know you, that's, you were yeah, I mean, I would break my neck to do that so you get. You get the return. You gotta take the positives in life, that's right. Uh, so no, it's good and I I'm grateful. It's uh, so much happened.

Dave:

Now that I just I look at my life in retrospect and and see the things and um, uh, I don't feel, uh, I, I live my life in such a way previously where I made a lot of mistakes, I don't feel like God was punishing me ever. This is pretty deep. I don't ever feel like God was punishing me, but I do think he was trying to teach me something. Um, I won't get too much detail there, but um, with everything that happened and previously in my life, I just feel like the accident was an opportunity for him to teach me something, because previously, years previously, kind of a stubborn guy in some things scenarios not stubborn, just clueless, yeah, but an opportunity to teach me and hopefully I responded well to it and I think that's. You know, you've probably shaken me like Dave, come on, let me slap you around here.

Brett:

So what are perspectives? Yeah, that's amazing.

Dave:

Yeah, so it's good. I mean, you tell me about your guy with the legs and stuff and I think, wow, I didn't do anything like that, but it's the same. What'd you say? The same idea or the same?

Brett:

just the mindset, mindset of you know what I well my legs offering, but the mindset's the same. Yeah, I mean, if that happened.

Dave:

yeah, it's a blessing that you know you're still here like, like you said, there's minutes from you know what could have been something way different. Yeah, I love my life. I'm glad to hear I never feel sorry for myself. You know, sometimes I ask myself like I'll get, like I will drop a pencil and I drop it twice. And I get frustrated with things like that, like because my motor skills in my right hand are my, where my flipper is. Yeah, my motor sounds. Sometimes you're like like, uh, tying a button, I tend to. I have this cool little puller, that, but so still, stuff like that motor skills is hard. I don't feel very much. So there's not much there. So, uh, little things like that and I drop and I can't pick. I get frustrated like, ah, you know, that's. That's about the extent of my being angry about it.

Dave:

So it's like just things you got to deal with. And they're so minute, so stuff like that, but other than that it's golden. I'm lucky. Yeah.

Brett:

I think it's amazing and, like from your story, you're very driven to one get better, to be like, driven to have a positive mindset, which I think is incredibly difficult, especially with a situation like this. I can't imagine going through something like that.

Dave:

I like the line where you can do hard things. We were just listening to some conference talks. I can't remember who it was, I think it was President Nelson. The subject was we can do hard things, yeah, and we can do hard things, yeah, and we can. And it's you really can when you're faced with this situation. You know, but prior to that, to me, to open up a car dealership, it's a hard thing to do that, or hard to go through and jump through the hoops to do it Right. So there's my wife, like Dave, when you want something you get after it, you can do hard things. Wife, like dave, when you want something you get after you can do hard things, you can do that. So this one's, you know, a little more forced, but you can. You can do hard things and I think in life we can all do hard things. Whatever that hard. What it might be hard to some person might not be hard to somebody, but it is hard to that person.

Brett:

Yeah, it's relative for everyone, right, right, as long as you're overcoming my wife and I.

Dave:

We love the word becoming. Yeah, it's a huge word for us. So, as long as you're making the right choices every day and trying to become so much, that was learned from this thing.

Brett:

So you know, I get older now.

Dave:

It's a little bit easier to be good when you're older.

Brett:

Well, I sound weird, but yeah, I mean so.

Dave:

Life's good, I'm lucky. I don't want to close this up without saying I'm grateful for my wife one more time. She's in some ways much stronger than I am. The things that she went through. I'd hate to have a role reversal. I wouldn't do as good.

Brett:

Well, I don't know if you've heard this quote, but I firmly believe it. Behind every strong man is a stronger woman.

Dave:

Yeah.

Brett:

Or I say I married up?

Brett:

Yeah, I for sure married up, so I totally understand that, but yeah, I mean that's, that's an amazing story and I really appreciate you sharing all the details and not holding back because I think it's. I mean, the reason I like having people on here is you know if someone's going through their own challenges or trials, you know, think it's, um, I mean the. The reason I like having people on here is you know if, if someone's going through their own challenges or trials, you know it's it's not the end, like there's always something that you could do to improve the situation and mindset, like you said.

Dave:

You called it mindset, yeah, and so, yeah, when, when I saw the title of your, of your show here, I thought this is good because it is one that applies to it. It relates to that, so, and I've got some other things I'm trying to do in life right now too, so yeah, well, let's, let's hear, yeah so I'll do my little plug here. Do it, please do because I don't want to make it about that, yeah, I mean, take all the time you want.

Dave:

No, no I'll just so. I I love music and so it's funny how this came to be.

Brett:

I real quick I yeah real quick. Who's uh favorite artists? Yeah, that's a good one, hey good question we're talking music here yeah, yeah, see, so I'm old and I still like some cool people okay, so I'm let's see if we're the same, let's see if we match my dad.

Dave:

He's uh, he's like he's 63 so I can play that game about music and say that I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good, I know a lot of old stuff. I go from beatles to bieber. I mean I'm okay, I could go, you got a lot, yeah, and all in between, all the genres, yeah. So go ahead, throw something at me. I just see prince prince purple rain oh yeah classic and purple rains even the one you didn't you went to a good song. Purple Rain's a good one, yeah the video was on.

Brett:

Chopper oh yeah, that one's so good.

Dave:

Yeah, that's, that's my era, that's probably 84, that's so good. My dad saw Prince twice, but Lionel Richie was hanging out at that time so yeah, hello at that time.

Brett:

Hello you ever listen to New Order those guys. New Order um you ever listen to new order? Uh, new order, yeah, or not. New order, uh, I, I'm gonna say you're I think I know you're mixing two up.

Dave:

Uh, yeah, um, oh, you are, because I started to go through it.

Brett:

Oh, man, yeah, because I know who you're saying. Blue monday, that's one of their songs. Oh, I can't think of who. It is not duran dur Duran. No, not Duran Duran, yeah.

Dave:

You have to give that a new order.

Brett:

Maybe it's not a new order. My dad's going to hear it. Okay, so here I'll be throwing one at you.

Dave:

Who sings. Well, I'll say it like this Do you like? What's the title of it? Promise, promise. Oh yes, Another song, I'm sorry but I'm just thinking about the ride. What was?

Brett:

it, it's not U2. Classic.

Dave:

Yeah, it's when it Roamed.

Brett:

Yeah, there you go. That's a good one. That is a good one, good 80s tune there everyone. What about? What if I said Brass Monkey, let's do a grew up on.

Dave:

See, that was all my dad's yeah, so we, that's a good one. About reggie I told my friend you're gonna get reggie haywood on this show. I'll say now, reggie haywood's coming on this show. All right, reggie, you're next dude, I'll just give you a little plug. Uh, I went to, I'd go to seminary at mesa high school. He, he always tell the story. He looks at me like I'm so weird, I'm going to enter what they call a period ceremony. I'm going there. His dad was a track coach, oh nice. And he was always out there running beside the white Ford Ranger just jogging. So that's the clue in. And so this guy was quite the track star. All right.

Dave:

So, I'll let him tell you the story, but he might be in Guinness Book of World Records, I don't know. So anyway, wow, okay, a little tip there.

Brett:

Yeah, we might have to get him on, get him on the show.

Dave:

He definitely what's it called Getting after it Getting after it.

Brett:

He's getting after it.

Dave:

I think the injury is.

Brett:

I mean get after it's more common than getting after, so by neck injury you can blame it for things like when you get old and you can't remember things. You can just blame it on that. There you go and they're like oh, that poor guy.

Dave:

So, but I'm not remembering music though, so let me throw one at you.

Brett:

I'll tell you a funny story Carmen Sunday.

Dave:

This is a true story. Carmen came to church with us on Sunday. She attended our ward over in the newlywed nearly dead ward. No, just kidding Over there at Alta Mesa. And she just said she's going to come to our ward and visited Jenny. So Jenny and her are dear friends. So she comes in and you know, Carmen, she's got her phone there or whatever. She's sitting there and I think it was before sacrament, but she gets a call.

Brett:

I think I know this one, yeah she, she gets a call and it goes off. Yeah, men down under. Yeah, men at work men at work.

Dave:

Yeah, that's what it is. Who can it be now? So who can it be now is playing on? I just like I mean it got it. Got the sax in it, yeah, oh, yeah, of course. So, yeah, so that played. And then the elders quorum president came right to us right away after church is over and he's like I mean, it's one thing for your phone to go off, but, man, it worked. That was a cool move. And I was like, how did you hear that from him? That's pretty good. He's from Innova Sax. So no, I love yeah. So yeah, I'll kind of get to, unless you have any more trivial. You know you won't stump me. So you, you can go study. If you want to get back, I might have to study. We should have a trivia game and, like have a panel you know what actually?

Brett:

let's do it sometime, old guys and young guys yeah, because we throw 60s, 70s. You should throw yeah my, my dad and carmen. We actually play this game with them both all the time, whenever we get together.

Dave:

Your dad is a music buff. He's really good. That'd be fun.

Brett:

He's on my team he's been to, like you know, led zeppelin like all those guys he's, yeah, he was huge into.

Dave:

No, sorry, not zeppelin van halen, he would get mad at me if I didn't say that better yeah, but um, david lee, raw, yeah, david lee, or off, we say he's, he's.

Brett:

He kind of looks like him a little bit yeah, um, yeah a little bit, but maybe not he'd get mad at me, mick jagger's. What I'm thinking of in high school, which lips yeah that's fun, um, but anyways, we play this game where we would pick songs from like the 80s, the 90s, um, some of the 70s and we'd play phones as fast as we can like the first note and yeah, we'd see if they can get it. And it's like instant they'll be like that's awesome. Yep, that's princess purple rain yeah, it's crazy.

Dave:

So there used to be a show called name that tune and they would oh yeah, it was a game show. And they would say they give clues and say I can name that song in three notes it was so similar that it was corny.

Brett:

yeah, anyways, anyways, back to your love of music.

Dave:

Sorry, Keep going. No, it's okay, I like that. We found this. You can formulate some type of show. That's right. I'm really good at that. But I will tell you. There is one guy. I'm telling you what's his name. I'm just going to put a plug in now. Maybe they'll watch his show. It's my wife's friend Wendy Randy. It's my wife's friend, wendy. She used to work with Jen and Randy. This dude can call off any song. Really, he's unstoppable. I've never seen anybody. He's on my team. I mean this. Anyway, he's like a computer, that's pretty good.

Brett:

Yeah, he's pretty good.

Dave:

He's got an index, so we anyway he's, he's like a computer, that's pretty good. Yeah, he's pretty good, so we'll have to get him here. So if he watches this show he's. I've already told him that before. Yeah, that's fine, it's funny you have that like so. So always have liked music, definitely like all kinds. And uh, you know I'm old but I I love, I think 60s music. 50s, 60s, late 50s, early 60s was the best music to have in high school. So american graffiti we wes early 60s was the best music to have in high school. So American Graffiti we lost out. That would have been the best time to be in high school. American Graffiti, that type of doo-wop the best in the world in my opinion. But I love the other music. But that would have been a good time to be in high school, no doubt about it. So music is great. I do love all kinds. I think I started listening to harmonies not by Beatles but Beach Boys. I'm a big Beach Boy fan.

Brett:

Yeah, my dad growing up he played that all the time. Sixth grade Great at harmonies.

Dave:

No headphones. I've got two big speakers and I laid my head between them and I would sing and I would take the album cover and I would sing and I would dig like this with the album cover and it would make me have like a vibrato. Oh wow, so that was how I got my vibrato. Was the album cover? Really, I can't believe I'm telling this on the air. So I would do the speakers, I sing the Beach Boys and I do this with the album cover. Man, I sounded great.

Brett:

Yeah, there you go. That's awesome Vibrato, so it started for me sometime yeah.

Dave:

So, uh, anyway, my job, I some spit thing, I would run some nice uh headphones thing, whatever. And so, um, I started listening to it at nighttime. And then, one thing, let's do another. Late at night I'm listening to, um, not, I hate to say the word karaoke, that's a swear word to me. Yeah, karaoke, it's a swear word to a lot of people Instrumental or minus tracks, minus tracks. I started listening to minus track songs and I would like in bed my wife like honey shut up. I'd be like, yeah, I sound like that whisper, anyway. So I would do that. And just my mind started formulating. So now it is a year and a half later. It went from ooh, it'd be cool to just record some music. Oh, I should buy this equipment. So all the spiff money went, I'd buy some equipment, I'd buy this. So now, a year and a half later, I've got a little setup and I'm not good yet, but I'm pretty good, I've learned.

Brett:

Just producing songs on your own?

Dave:

Yeah, just doing covers yeah, I've got a lot that I've already done, but I'm getting better. Just tracks and how to do tracks and how to work. There's so much more I can learn, but I learn a lot.

Brett:

Did you grow up playing any instruments or anything?

Dave:

No, I mean, no, I sang.

Brett:

I gave up on the piano. I wanted to play guitar started a little bit here.

Dave:

But no, my boys they are, and Jen's kids I say stepkids. Our family is musically inclined, they're all good. So Hayden and Mason have some stuff on Spotify. It's really cool, that's amazing yeah you can come on the show and play that, yeah, but yeah, they have some good stuff on Spotify. But, yeah, they have some good stuff on Spotify. But yeah, they're very talented. All of them are extremely.

Brett:

Oh, the music yeah.

Dave:

So I was doing that as formulating, learning things. So ideas kept going and formulating. So, gosh, I'll spare you all the details. Where I'm at today, I'm doing a. It's called the daily dose show. I actually just did a jingle tonight before you know. I'll play it for you before it's gone you can play. So I'm going to it's 40 seconds yeah, why not? Okay, so anyway. So I'm gonna play it right now, yeah, it's a daily dose show.

Brett:

You want to hear it yeah, hold up to the microphone a little bit so everyone can hear we go until midnight all right, it's only been an hour.

Dave:

Yeah, we can keep going. I will shut it down here in just a minute if you're stay tuned for another 10 minutes another 10 minutes.

Brett:

We got this going.

Dave:

Yeah, now we're on, you gotta stay tuned now because you're gonna hear the daily dose show jingle guys. This is live for the first time ever, played ever on this is getting after it. This is getting after it, yeah getting after it live first time premiere all right, right, here we go stand by, stand by, I'm ready, wait. No, that's ret, that's you.

Brett:

You don't have it which, by the way, music that helps you get after it.

Dave:

So that's right, it motivates me, it's fun and and I gotta tell you what to do, but I'll play this for you.

Dave:

Okay, what am I? I'm challenged, here we go. Are you ready? Should I just put it into that? Yeah, yeah, just hold it up, okay, all right, you ready for this? Here we go. It's done, probably 10 minutes before I left the house. All right, all right, all right, wait for it, wait for it. Ooh, I'll give you 20 bucks if you can tell me the background music. I stole it from someone probably shouldn't say that to them. This is my music, that's the key. Oh man, my son got it in about 5 minutes. Really, I think I might have told him he was ending. My son got it in about Five minutes. Really, I think I might have told him it's the Daily Dough Show.

Brett:

That was pretty good.

Dave:

I still have to add one more harmony.

Brett:

I liked it, so what I?

Dave:

just said, is the Daily Dough Show, don't you know? So what?

Brett:

the. Daily Dough Show is oh sorry, you gotta tell me what the song was, because I I don't.

Dave:

It sounds so it's like a jingle oh yeah, so yeah, the one you sampled. That's a clue right there. I wonder what that sounds like on this podcast I don't know, so give me, I'll give you a clue this is a fun game right here.

Brett:

Yeah, this is back to music.

Dave:

Oh man, this is gonna give it away.

Brett:

Um, okay, you ready yeah, I might not get it, I don't know.

Dave:

No, you will okay, you're living in a cave, if you don't pack it up, pack it in okay, yeah, yeah, okay, it's the background music that's pretty good down.

Brett:

No, it's not. Yeah, yeah, jump around. Yeah, it is okay.

Dave:

House of pain back to house of pain. Yeah, there you go from ireland where I went on my mission. Oh nice, yeah, so pack it up, pack it in let me begin, yeah, so good, we should, we should go on tour we, we should why not, daily dose show.

Brett:

So what is it? What is it?

Dave:

you want your name to be in there too, if we go on tour. The Daily Brett Show.

Brett:

No, anyway, I can just be, you know, a really small font on there, the Daily.

Dave:

Dough Show is. So my brother just told me on the way over here tonight he was all serious. We went to Pete's and he's's like dave, and he knew about this daily show. So so it's, uh, it's a platform for. I've went everywhere on this. It's a platform for teenagers. I put a limit from 14 to 18. I'll tell you why I did that 14 to 18 to do covers. Okay, so they? So it's a platform for for their music to be heard. Yeah, I want them to learn different type of genres, like our vast knowledge that we have.

Brett:

Yeah, yeah, I mean so like what type of genres you're trying to think? Soul music, like some pop or a little.

Dave:

Yeah, well, I'm gonna let them just do their thing at first yeah, then I'm to send a song that they have to do, you know what I mean. Then I'm going to let them do their thing and I'll play, so they'll send. So it's 14 to 18. So the joke is, who's this old guy with teenagers? So I will say now, maybe I'll get my wife on the first couple of shows, my wife on the first couple of shows.

Dave:

Yeah, we'll have Jen there first couple of shows. Yeah, I will never have somebody over doing a cover without my wife. There men are male or female anyway, so yeah, that would be weird, and so I'm not a creepy old guy. It's the reason we did 14 days. I'll see here and say here, say it now. The reason I did that age, because I started thinking about it and it was hayden's idea. Um, if I do this daily dose show and people to do covers with adults, guess what? They're going to fade out in about two weeks. So then it's just not going to become a thing. I think teenagers are going to dig it and they're going to get into it because they want to do a cover on TikTok or whatever.

Brett:

Yeah.

Dave:

So I want to be the guy that does the platform to provide that. You know, granted, I'm old, but I hope that I have enough knowledge to work the equipment, have the equipment come in. So what I want to do is, when they send me a silly cover on their iphone and they're singing a song, they like morgan wallen and they're singing it, blah, blah, blah, and they do it and they send it to me, I take it and I put it on my tracks. I just want to make it sound a little bit better, so, and then I want to play it back on the podcast. So I want to enhance it, yeah, yeah. So I enhance it and play it back and I hope they like it.

Dave:

But then, after the week of those let's say, there's 20 people that do that I'm giving you a scenario yeah, 20 entries came in and I played their songs. I will pick one and winner that wins a thousand dollars. Okay, I lied on this thousand dollars a winner will get a free t-shirt. There we go. So and it's not about, it's really not winning the free t-shirts will really be pretty cool but it's about having your song replayed again?

Dave:

yeah, and if it gets to a point where fairly large, that'd be cool. You know, I would love it if it was 200 people, that would be cool, that people would actually get to be on that platform and play their music and somebody could do it. And this is where you've got to teach me a lot of this stuff. So I would imagine it would still be stored on there and the videos would be stored so anytime people could go to and hear one of the videos or whatever. So the idea is it comes to me, I will take what I've learned and try to enhance it and make it sound better for them, cause most people at 15 know how to sing, I think, but they don't know how to do some of the equipment. I mean.

Brett:

I like I used to make tons of movies when I was that age and knew nothing about editing, and so if I had someone doing that for me, like, hey, yeah, send me your videos, I'll make them look really cool, like that would be a game changer for me that's a good analogy, yeah, with people with music like you know it's.

Dave:

I don't know if I'm that good, but like good enough to where they won't know the difference and it'll sound good.

Brett:

I mean my niece she's 17, she sings songs all the time and yeah um I'll send you some of the stuff I've done already yeah, that'd be awesome recorded.

Dave:

It's my what I did find. Man, this show is gonna be long and I'm so sorry no, this is great, I love it. Uh, does this still have to do with getting getting after it?

Brett:

yeah, I mean you're getting after still relate absolutely getting after this 100.

Dave:

Yeah, okay, um, uh. What was I saying? This?

Brett:

is about the platform itself and, oh yeah, the platform I don't know what I was saying.

Dave:

Oh my gosh, oh, um, is it live yet? No, no, I'm about a month out before I will do this and, um, I was trying to remember what I was saying, but anyway, the songs come in. I want to redo that, um, and I I just wanted to be a fun where it gets to be, where people know to kids yeah, teenagers and and it's a positive thing to do they have fun doing it and it just gets to be a thing yeah, you know, a thing where they. You asked me who my favorite artist. I never didn't answer that question. It's true, I just said the word thing. Isn't it a thing? Who's that?

Dave:

man, you got who's that I just sang the first three lines, isn't it a thing? What's the next ones? I could do plenty. I have phases where I like people.

Brett:

What's the time? I'll sing another one. What's that Time frame? When was this 19?

Dave:

He won on America's Got Talent, really Uh-huh. I love to give you clues america's got talent and he won. I assume uh-huh, okay, when I'm there, yeah, I think, yeah, I think he did, and then, you know, I just find him. And then all of a sudden, and he did that song, I just sang and he and he, um, he sang 10 000 reasons. No, not 10 000 reasons ed sheeran no no, I love ed sheeran, but no, oh man, it's uh calum scott.

Brett:

You know, that is I don't think I do actually. I stumped you, you stumped me yeah, I'll send you something. Yeah, you have to, he's got a good uh like baritone tenor voice for that but he's got, so he writes a lot of music and it's so good it's a piano and just just good stuff.

Dave:

Yeah, yeah, calum scott, you've probably heard some of his music. You just don't realize his name, do you know jake scott is? No, I don't. Oh, yeah, I mean I'm, I'm jake scott, and then I haven't listened to him for a while. But my daughter, I heard it in the car one time and he's good. I, I was all over him, but I haven't listened to him for a while. But anyway, yeah, caleb Scott, you know that's your homework assignment for me to do is you'll listen. I'll send you some past Spotify. Yeah, some of your favorite ones. Yeah, so, but I'll just say Lewis Capoli, love him, he's good.

Dave:

Okay, and it's funny, I don't have much of a range. I can't go up there. It's funny, you love the songs that you can't sing. So I've learned how to that one thing I went to. I learned how to lower the key and higher the key. So you'll find I'm not a professional but I've learned. I see and my wife probably laughs at me because she's very music-linked music theory and all that stuff. But I'll take a song and I I've learned, I see and my wife probably laughs at me because she's very musically inclined music theory and all that stuff, oh wow.

Dave:

But I'll take a song and I'll raise it up, notes the key and the level, and then I'll sing underneath it. So the key is there, but I'm singing underneath it and it sounds good. So, like Bee Gees, I could sing an octave underneath them.

Brett:

Oh, there you go.

Dave:

Because they're so high.

Brett:

Yeah, they have some Alvin and the Chimney voices Because they're out there, right.

Dave:

So you can sing an octave under. But that's an example. Night Fever, that's a good one, yeah so. But the thing is you can if it's out of my range, you can take it up two steps and sing underneath it and it's good, because then it's right where you want to be. So I play around with that like that's awesome. Yeah, just so, minus tracks. I don't like the word. What's this?

Brett:

word, word karaoke. Yeah, you don't say, because then you think of karaoke, but let's face it, I mean youtube, yeah I find everything there's a reason why karaoke and bar those two words go together because it's the only time they do I hate the stigma with karaoke.

Dave:

But you know, I find some of them and it a karaoke song and it has the best sound. But I like to do a lot of instrumental piano or guitar and they're so good and they're minus all the other instruments but they're really chill and they're good. So a lot of that kind of stuff. I'll send you over a couple of things, yeah please do.

Brett:

Yeah, and so it's fun. Yeah, when you launch the Daily Show. Where is it going to be Daily?

Dave:

Dose Show Daily Dose Show it's the. Daily Dose Show.

Brett:

The Daily Show is something completely different.

Dave:

What did you say?

Brett:

I was saying, the Daily Dose or the Daily Show is something completely different. It's like a political show, that's D-A-I-L-Y yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll launch it.

Dave:

I'll probably need your help.

Brett:

I don't know if it's a launch.

Dave:

So is it a podcast? Because let me tell you what I do. I'm not doing this. Well, maybe Once in a while I might have somebody that has done music and I'll get them on there. I'll talk maybe for 20 minutes, but most of mine is getting on the show and I've had three songs in. I'll get out, say hey, I've had some three and I'll talk about it and I'll pay the play the songs and play their videos and talk about it. Then I'm out and they're recorded. So is that a podcast?

Dave:

I mean, yeah, it's all during the week, so it's daily, or you know, you're getting on there and then the songs are, and then I'm announcing but on that saturday there's probably it's I might spend 20, so it's saturday to saturday and I might spend 20 minutes on there talking and who's the winner?

Brett:

and here's the free t-shirt, and then yeah, I mean, the week starts all over, so that's the idea. If you put it on spotify or or anything like that, yeah, it'd be, I'm gonna podcast. I mean, there's lots of people who have like solo podcasts and okay, um, podcasts can be kind of whatever you want to be live.

Dave:

don't want to stream like that. I definitely want to record so I can record, have some you, you know, jammed up cause I get busy, but you have some stuff in there. But yeah, excited about it, it's fun. I didn't realize you were such a music buff. That's, that's really cool. I love music, I mean yeah, that's really cool. Also a earth, wind and fire, they're all there for me, like my grandpa used to love that stuff.

Brett:

Man, my grandpa, he was a uh, he was a uh, he was a concert pianist and he, um, he was going to have his own radio show, um, but then he was about to have a kid and he's like I don't think this is the life I want to have. So, um, but I grew up hearing him play. And my dad, he's listened to so much stuff like he loves everything from you know, like heavy metal to you know, to super soul music, to kind of everything Gospel. He loves it all I do too.

Dave:

I mean, I love back in the day In high school. It was cool to go to the church, dance and that's what we did. You guys go today. Well, not you guys, yeah.

Brett:

I was going to say Maybe not, I've heard it 27.

Dave:

They go and they stand and it'd be in standard group. And I mean I used to go and see the cutest girl and go ask her and get her phone number and whatever you don't do that anymore.

Brett:

How do you meet it has yeah, it's social change.

Dave:

But we used to go and, man, we'd shake a tail feather, we were dancing A lot of not disco. I would say Disco, yeah, that's some good stuff, like the Gap Band.

Brett:

I know the Gap Band, oh yeah, okay, that's awesome yeah, some good stuff. So yeah, there's some good stuff in there.

Dave:

That's my time here, a lot of that stuff. But yeah, there's a lot of variety of music and for now I'll let them show and stuff, but then I'll pick a song and I'll say that they have to cut that song. So the entries that come out, that'll be cool. So then I'm controlling the narrative. Yeah, there you go, so it's very cool.

Brett:

And then see who does the best song. So it'll be fun. It'll be fun to mess with it and I'm excited to hear say all this stuff and, of course, take too much time. I mean it's good.

Dave:

I that's why I have the show, so I can learn what people are gonna have you on the daily dose show and you're gonna sing live. I well, you know we're gonna do we're gonna. I have to put my mom in there for for that one no, I make people sound good, so I'm gonna have you on my show. Okay, I will get you to do a cover and we'll say this is brett and you everybody's gonna be like that's not brett. I'm like yeah really okay.

Brett:

Hey, listen, I'll trust you, I'll trust the process and there's karma out there.

Dave:

I talked about you on this podcast about your phone going off in church.

Brett:

Yeah, men at work.

Dave:

Men at work. So that was Carmen out the door anyway.

Brett:

Mother of my life.

Dave:

Yeah, so no, it's fun. I love your thrill for music, so that's fun. We'll definitely be talking for sure, for sure, I appreciate you having me on here. Of course, I mean it's, it's been.

Brett:

We're kind of in the closing mode, aren't we?

Dave:

yeah, I mean it's closing up. Can you hear that, can you?

Brett:

hear it, you feel it in the air actually. Yeah, it's right there. No, but honestly, I, I, I truly appreciate you coming on and and sharing your story, because one it's. It's an amazing story of of resilience and keeping a positive attitude when you know all hell breaks loose, in a sense it is yeah and um so many different scenarios that that can happen.

Dave:

Yeah, and I just I think, anything.

Brett:

There's a lot of people out there who are fighting their own battles and you know it might not be as as drastic as like a life. There's, addictions, there's, uh, there's so many different battles out there, but this applies right, you know getting after and that's why I love your show.

Dave:

And you said passionate about things and yeah, yeah, you keep doing this. This is good stuff, but I'm gonna send people your way hey, and I'll do the same because I I think I get a good vibe for what you're doing here. So, like I appreciate it, I'll throw reggie your way here and you'll be on here soon yeah, we'll get reggie on your city of a city of Mesa, honoree or something. Well, now I'm excited to talk to him Like the mayor of Mesa or something.

Brett:

I don't know. Oh wow, there we go.

Dave:

He's going to laugh at what I'm talking about. But anyway, we have a, so man, I could talk to you forever.

Brett:

That's all right.

Dave:

In high school. Real quick, In high school there's like 20 of us guys that hung out. We were all LDS and so we were pretty rowdy, but we didn't drink or anything, but we're just crazy rowdy.

Brett:

That's exactly You're explaining. My friend grew up too. I know that. See, I knew that.

Dave:

But we were getting really troubled. But we were pretty goofy and I bet one of my friends was not a member but he'd go to seminary with me. I'll try to make this a short story and we went across and we learned about the Mesa Mormon I'm sorry, we learned about the Mormon Battalion, right? Okay, so we learned about the Mormon Battalion and he thought that was really cool. And we're crossing the street and he's like, yeah, the Mormon Battalion.

Brett:

And he's yelling the name or whatever.

Dave:

And so he's yelling the name whatever, and so and he's, he's talking about us buddies all hanging out because we're all lds, and so anyway, he ends up I don't know where he's. Yeah, he's gone. Now it became an mmb. It's called the mason mormon battalion, so it's, it's our gang, we still. We have yeah, it's amazing more battalion. Mike moore do you know that is?

Dave:

he made up ties on our mission, said mb on it and that's awesome it became our thing and we're gonna think about uh, setting it up to have a business name or whatever it's called.

Brett:

Uh, uh, llc.

Dave:

Yes, yeah, something like that there's a lot of cool people on it but um, but we do. We help people like we just got a donation for somebody that passed away in our high school and donated some money and things like that but anyway, um yeah, mason warm time. So it's a just a bunch of friends from high school doing, doing big things.

Brett:

Yeah, that's awesome, yeah, so thank you of course, and um, great show, yeah, once, uh once, people you know, or once you launch the daily dose show, um, we'll have to make another plug on this and have you on again.

Dave:

But, yeah, seriously, it's about, like you know, a hundred thousand viewers and then you know, maybe, yeah, there you go.

Brett:

I mean, this is a, this is like you said we're.

Dave:

we're up in the listener count, just like Joe Rogan on this podcast, so I you might get overwhelmed so Didn't know Brett Tua, so I teased him he's so serious about his show so I said so I was making a joke about him and Joe Rogan, like one and two, you guys trade turns and he came back with a serious response. It's kind of like that, whatever. Anyway, it was a serious response about what you do and I thought it was funny Kind of the same kind of conversational show.

Dave:

Yeah, that's what you said very lower count. I said, brad, I was trying to make a joke, oh yeah, okay, I don't yeah, that's, uh, that's business, braddy, it's good stuff, but good stuff yeah I I really appreciate you coming on all right um.

Brett:

It's great having you great great talking with you.

Dave:

It's been fun. It's my first experience on this and I'll do it again yeah, you did great.

Brett:

All right, man. Well, thank you all for listening. Um, appreciate you tuning in today and kind of hearing the story and if you went through and you've gone through difficult things and you know someone who might be feel free to share the show with someone, and please feel free to like and rate and, as always, keep getting after it. Thanks, guys, you are the man.