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Getting After It
076: Lessons from Two Years of Podcasting – Authenticity, Consistency, and Overcoming Self-Doubt
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Alright, folks, this episode is a two-year deep dive into the wild ride of podcasting.
Spoiler alert: authenticity trumps pandering every single time.
Bold risks, the power of showing up, and why chasing trends is like trying to catch smoke—fleeting and ultimately pointless.
I talk about the personal growth and resilience required to make things happen, all while I shamelessly brag about the sheer awesomeness of my wife, Ally, who makes everything in life just a bit more epic.
And because no episode is complete without name-dropping legends, we’re pulling wisdom from the likes of Winston Churchill and Michael Jordan—because who better to school us on consistency and discipline?
This isn’t just a pep talk; it’s a call to arms against self-doubt, with a little help from our Stoic buddy Marcus Aurelius. And hey, it turns out the strength we need is right there in the people we love. As we wrap things up, I want to throw a massive thank you to our listeners. And by the way, Dr. Phil, if you’re tuning in, consider this your official invite to join the fun!
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Lessons Learned Over Two Years
Speaker 1all right , how's it going ? Everybody this is dr phil brett unfortunately can't make it to today's podcast episode , so he asked me to step in and I uh , I asked him . I said , well , you're gonna tell these people that you can't make it to the episode of the podcast where you're gonna be talking about two years of lessons learned . Instead , you ask me to step in . Well , as no ownership in that . And he was a little upset with that and that's OK , though you know he's got to make some changes to his day to day behavior . The guy's crazy . Just can't believe that . There's people like him out there just causing a ruckus . That's all I'm going to say about that stupid son of a bitch . Anyways , I'm back . That was my failed impression of Dr Phil , but I love Dr Phil . So again , the invitation stands . Dr Phil , if you ever want to join this podcast , if you ever want to be a guest , let's do it . My friend , we can wear the same suit . I'll shave part of my mustache , so it's about the same size as yours , and then I'll comb it . Make it look nice . Dr Phil , please come on .
Speaker 1But Dr Phil said something just about now that this entire podcast is about . It's all about the lessons I've learned over two years of doing the Getting After it podcast , and it feels like yesterday is where it is , and I'm sure you hear people say that all the time , anytime they reflect and reminisce . But it's been two years and I've put a lot of my thoughts out there . I've put some pretty heartfelt things out there . There's been a lot of lessons learned along the way and , first and foremost , the first lesson I learned is follow your dreams . It's something that gets brushed off by a lot of people when I say that they're not going to really consider what it means to actually achieve their dreams , and what I mean by that is they will disqualify their attempts before they even try , and that is sad . Like you shouldn't live life where you are afraid of what could happen because of other people's opinions , and if that's the reason that's not or that is holding you back to trying to reach your dreams , trying to achieve greatness , then I would tell you don't focus on those other people , focus on yourself , do it for you , and when I started this podcast , I started doing it for other people , but because of that , it didn't really flow well . It wasn't really something I liked doing , it was just I thought it would be cool to do , but when I did it , I talked about topics that I felt like other people wanted to hear about , and now it's taken a shift to .
Speaker 1I talk about things I'm interested in and I talk about things that I like , lessons that I've learned that have helped me , which is why I would urge anyone out there who's on the fence about whether or not to change a job , to make the move to date the girl , whatever the scary thing is in front of you . Take a shot at it , just do it , because the worst that can happen is you're in the same place that you are now . If your attempt goes to hell , if you don't do as well as you wish you would have , and you put yourself out there . You get immediately turned down and guess what ? Nothing has changed about your life . Nothing , but let's say something positive comes from that experience where you ask the girl out . Maybe she turns into your wife . Shout out to Allie , allie's the best . But you never know what can happen , especially when it's something you've never done .
Speaker 1And when I started this podcast , it was a big push to figure out some lessons that I wanted to teach you all , but a lot of the lessons I teach , and the ones that are most well-received are the ones I actually care about , and so I said , hey , you know what that's . What we're going to be doing now is I'm going to be talking about things I care about . Some people won't really be interested in them , and that's fine . Not my audience . My audience is out there and the things I talk about are important to me , which means they have to be important to some other people as well , and that's fine . But lesson number one is chase your dreams . And when I reflect on this podcast and the progress I've made in it , there hasn't been substantial growth . I'm not on that exponential curve yet . I know if I stay in the fight I will be .
Speaker 1But it's this slow growth process which leads me into lesson number two , and that's be patient . Be patient with whatever you're doing in your life . Be patient with yourself , be patient with your goals , be patient with other people and how you treat them . Patience is something that is rare in today's society , but if you're able to grasp patience , you will be set up to outperform anyone who has a good month at work or whatever the scenario might be . But the reason patience is important is because it ties into one of the foundational principles I always talk about , and that's consistency .
Speaker 1If you are patient , then you can be consistent , because Alex Ramosi said one time . He said human beings are attracted to novelty , which is why being consistent is difficult . What he's saying there is we like the new thing , we like the new job or the new diet that we're jumped on or the new workout trend , but the people that actually get the results are the ones that do it nonstop . They do the boring work , they don't care about fads , they have their goals , they know the road to get there and they're on that road and they're being patient the whole time . And if I started this podcast with the expectation of when I do this , I'll have a million followers in a year , easy . And then let's say I don't have that happen which very far off from that , by the way but let's say I didn't have it happen Then what would I say to myself ? And well , I guess it's not worth doing , it's not worth something that is worth my time because I don't have a million followers .
Speaker 1And that's the danger that not being patient can lead to . Is you quit early , apply that to any principle or anything that you're doing is don't quit early . That is the worst feeling in the entire world . There's no worse feeling than when I'm on a run and I maybe pull it back two miles . I'm supposed to run 14 , but I only feel like I can do 12 , mentally , like if my body's okay and I quit mentally , then that's where I start to fight myself and I start realizing that I was capable of going further , but I didn't because I was weak in the moment . And I'm not saying that you have to go out and be this super tough person and you have to have everything go your way all the time . No , that's not going to happen . But what I'm trying to say is be patient during the process , because whatever goals you have in front of you , it's going to be a process and it's going to change you .
Speaker 1This podcast has shifted and formed and been molded into so many different things . Like now I am focused on the four points of the podcast that I'm trying to do A book review , guest principal , just a historical figure kind of thing . Those four things are all four topics that I'm interested in , and so if that means I'm going to be interested in learning a different topic or a principle to teach you all , then I'm going to study it , take what I learned from it and then bring it to you all and , if you like it , great . If not , at least I learned something from it , which leads me into lesson number three , and that is there's always something to be gained , and not saying like monetarily , not saying that you know your goals , if you reach them there'll be a success , or if you don't reach them , you're a failure . There's always something to be gained during the process , and for me , I feel like I have one become a better speaker . I'm still working on it too .
Speaker 1I've learned a lot . I've had to go back and read books , I've had to learn how to ask better questions , and I found the Stoics through doing my podcast , and now I'm obsessed with them . They teach principles that are great for philosophy and life , and you just have to push through the difficult days , I would say , because those days that are difficult are the ones you also gain something . For example , if you have really pushed your limits all day long and you have a goal to read before bed and you just pick up the book and you don't remember anything that you read before you go to sleep . But that simple act of you picking up the book and saying that you are willing to bear through the process and be patient during the process tells a lot about you and ultimately should push you in the right direction of getting to that goal in the end . But there's always something to be gained . There's always a lesson to be learned , one of the reasons I love having guests on and if you look at my guest history , they're wide ranged of people .
Speaker 1Michael's coming on this week . He's the pilot for Allegiant , but I've also had my mom . I've had Zach Shepard on , who is the founder of the Fatherhood Initiative . I've had Zach Bray on , who told his story about how he struggled with his divorce and it led him to a deep dark spot . And now he helps with men's mental health . He goes out and talks to men who are struggling and creates camps , blown up in Afghanistan and lost both his legs , but is a bronze medalist in the Paralympics and biked across America and ran 31 marathons in 31 days .
Speaker 1It's a wide range of people , but that's what's cool is , every single person has something that you can learn from and you can apply to your own life . It doesn't matter who you are . You have something that you can learn from and you can apply to your own life . It doesn't matter who you are . You have something that you can teach another individual and that's valuable , and so there's always something to be gained from conversations you have with people on the street , from conversations you have about your I don't know , you're talking to your mom , listen . I had this realization the other day , and since I've had it , I've looked at people a little differently , because this is going to sound so goofy , but it's something that I realized that every single person you pass at the store , at the airport , on the street , every single person has a story and it's going to look different . The human mind is wild , the fact that everyone is different . No one's the same , but everyone has a history and there are lessons that people learned during their journey that we can learn from and get ahead of the curve . There was this I may have mentioned .
Speaker 1I'm reading this book right now called the 48 Laws of Power . There's one power that he talks about that he states . The author is Robert Greene and he says the real purpose of the backward glancing eye is to educate yourself constantly . You look at the past to learn from those who came before you . So all these other people have had their own lives right , and you can learn lessons from their life that can help you progress in your own . That's a powerful principle , and so , along with you know , there's always something to be gained . I think it's safe to say that there's always a lesson to be learned from someone , and it doesn't matter who you are , how old you are , what religion you are , what sexual orientation , I don't know what . Whatever else people say , it doesn't matter , because everyone has a story . Be kind enough to be the person that would listen to someone's . Which leads me to point number four , lesson number four , kind of lesson , more of a shift . I started this podcast with the idea that I was going to be able to help other people and haven't really seen the evidence of that , and so I decided about six months ago to shift the purpose of the podcast to be geared more towards .
Speaker 1I wish I knew these lessons when I was younger , when I was 20 years old . I wish I would have known about the power of consistency and that small things are what compound and create great things . I wish I would have known the importance of discipline in terms of the body . One of my favorite quotes is from Seneca . He says the body should be treated rigorously , that it may not be disobedient to the mind . And that is a lesson I wish I would have known when I was younger , because it has been true up to this point . The more disciplined I am with my body , with my training , with my diet , with my sleep , then it won't disobey my mind when I tell it , hey , we need to do something . I have control , and one of the best ways that you can see if you have control or not is to see if you're willing to do it , if you're willing to push past the pain , if you're willing to step up when it's hard and do the difficult thing , if you're willing to step
Embracing Resilience and Self-Improvement
Speaker 1up when it's hard and do the difficult thing .
Speaker 1And when I think about other lessons I wish I would have known it's also shifted to . I want my kids to know what's important to me and a lot of that is being your own best version of you . That's important to me because that's how you can give to more . That's how you can support your family better . That's how , if you're the best person you can be and the best that you're trying to be , and accomplish the things that you know you can , then you are going to be happy . If you know you're doing everything you can to make progress towards your goal , then you're going to be proud of that work . Happiness , in my opinion , is a lack of understanding where you're going , because if you know where you're going , if you have your head on straight , things just seem to go a little easier , and a good example of this is my wife , allie . So buckle up . It's about to get cheesy . I don't know if they're ready for the cheese . See , I tried shifting to Dr Phil , it didn't work . But Allie , the love of my life , I love you baby . Here's the deal .
Speaker 1Growing up my entire life , I wanted to be this person who was ? I would tell my parents I was going to be the CEO of the world . You can ask them , but that was my quote . Even my grandparents . They still call me the CEO of the world , and I don't know why . I think I heard when I was really young maybe around like six years old that CEOs make a lot of money , and I was like I want a lot of money . I love toys and you know how many Lego sets I could buy with a million dollars Insane . So I had this early idea , from when I was a kid , that I was going to be rich and I was not going to let anything stop me , and that has kind of played into my life up to this point .
Speaker 1If you look at my career , you can see I've made shifts to try to go after the more bigger paycheck . If I'm being honest , like I'm in sales Sorry , I need to take a drink . I was parched . I'm in sales and that's typically not . You don't get in sales to change the world . You get in it to make some money . Right , and I've been doing .
Speaker 1It's going to sound conceited . I've been doing pretty well , and I'm quickly realizing , though , that that means nothing to me . Money is important . It is . It should be used as a tool . But what is more important is spending time with my loved ones , like Allie . I could lose everything I have , but if I had Allie I would be fine . If I lost her I would be a wreck . I don't know what I would do . She has literally been the brightest thing in my life and has changed it for the better in every sense of the word . She knows how to make me just the happiest guy ever .
Speaker 1Last night . I waited up for her . She had her first observation flight , so she's officially flying for Allegiant . I waited up for her . She got home around 9.30 pm . It was a Friday night and everything kind of closes around 7 . No , not 7 . 9 . I don't know Whenever restaurants close , but like she came home and I was like hey , it's still date night . Like we got to go out and have a date . So we ended up going to IHOP Right . Boom , what a , what a classy date . And , um , it was just so fun being with her . Like we're so goofy together , we know each other so well and the love that we have for one another , I think is something you only get in the movies . I'm just going to say it . But she is my best friend and she supports me to do these podcasts more than anyone else . That's all I think a guy wants is someone who believes in them and someone who is there cheering along with them in the mud , with them . That's all a guy wants , and so , in my eyes , my life is perfect .
Speaker 1Yes , I have this podcast where I can talk about things that are important to me , like Allie , but if you took it all away from me and I still had her , I'd be fine . I got the gospel of Jesus Christ and the hottest woman in the world . What else do I need ? Nothing ? I was be fine . I got the gospel of Jesus Christ and the hottest woman in the world . What else do I need ? Nothing . I was very blessed . I don't know how I got on a tangent about Allie , but she's just important to me and that's what it was about . We were talking about money . Money's not important compared to Allie . So me being the CEO of the world when I was younger wanted to do that . I don't care about that now , but I will be the CEO of the world , so just be prepared for that .
Speaker 1And the last thing I want to talk about is self-doubt , because self-doubt , no matter who you are , comes up and it's a bitch . I hate self-doubt . You start questioning your beliefs , you start questioning if you have what it takes to get the thing done . And that's where the danger sneaks in the sneaky little guy . He'll come in there . He'll sit on your lap and say , hey , I don't think you could do this . Why don't you ? You suck , why don't you sit off ? Or why don't you change your goals ? You're not going to get this . That's the sound that he makes . That's not true . Don't listen to that voice . Listen to this .
Speaker 1This is from Marcus Aurelius . He says you have power over your mind , not outside events . Realize this and you will find strength . I'm going to break this down . So you have power over your mind . That's the first part , not on outside events . Over your mind , that's the first part , not on outside events . So he's saying you can control you and nothing else . Everything else is going to happen , but the thing that you know you can control is yourself . So do that .
Speaker 1And when I think about myself and the podcast , I can't get people to like this . I can't get them to get excited about stoicism or can't change them . I can tell them what I think , I can tell them things I've learned , but in the end that won't really do much unless it strikes a chord and they're the ones that take action and so that's fine and I'm okay with that because I've realized that I can't control other people and I found strength , like Marcus says . But the thing is is I have learned so much and gained so much from doing this podcast that I don't care if it grows , because it's been something that has been genuinely beneficial in my life in so many different ways , beneficial in my life in so many different ways .
Speaker 1Having to sit down and solidify your thoughts and talk for an hour is pretty difficult . I'm getting better at it . But this podcast , by the way , I'm just rambling things off so I don't have any outline . So if it sounds a little crazy , I apologize . But control yourself , and so when things don't start going your way , if your goals are being criticized , or if you're having a difficult time making progress with your goals , don't quit . Do not quit . That's not failing . If you don't get it , if you don't get to the goal by the amount of time , that's not failing . What's failing is finally giving in and saying all right , I'm not cut out for this , I'm done , that's it , so don't do that . I guess I will say one last thing about this podcast , things I've learned about myself and through the experiences of others , and that's human beings are resilient . Human beings can get stuff done Like .
Speaker 1It is fascinating to study some of the top performers . You study Michael Jordan and you will come across times of his life where he was throwing up but still showed up to practice . Same with Kobe . Those guys didn't take a day off because they knew that the work was so important . Look at Winston Churchill , who pretty much conquered Hitler and stopped him in his tracks , saving millions of people's lives .
Speaker 1Think about Sally McRae , who , when she's running 100 mile races and she gets to mile 65 , she's throwing up . She has all these stomach issues . She can still keep going . These are all amazing examples , but it shows you that the human body is very hard to limit and it shows you that humans can do great and amazing things . It doesn't have to just be physical . Think about Winston Churchill . That guy was fat and he chain smoked cigars . He was not in shape to run a hundred miles like Sally .
The Power of Consistency and Growth
Speaker 1But here's the deal If someone has carved the path before you , if someone has done the thing that you want to do , then there is evidence that you can do that same exact thing . And there's evidence to say that if you're consistent and disciplined and make small progress , that progress compounds and you will reach your goals . I wouldn't lie to you . The way to reach your goals through slow and steady progress and consistency . Winston Churchill he wasn't able to conquer Hitler in a night . It took him a lifetime . A lifetime of reading books , of joining the army and fighting for his country and then working in the United Kingdom's legal system , he had all that stuff . Michael Jordan wasn't the best overnight . It took him years and years of practice . He had talent , but there was so much work behind it . And whatever goal you have in front of you , don't put a timeline on it . Just do the small and consistent progress that you know you need to do on a daily basis . That will get you there . I can almost guarantee you that you'll get there .
Speaker 1It might be hard , it might hurt , but that's the point of growing . Growing is painful . It is a difficult thing to do . A tree has to sprout underground and then push its way through the top of the soil and then from there it has to fight off birds , bugs and everything else in between . But in order to get to that point it has to grow . Growing is not easy , but I'll tell you what's easier is knowing that you did what you could instead of not . If you did the hard work and if you put yourself out there , if you tried your best , then you can be proud of the work that you've done . You could be proud of the goals that you have attempted or have reached . Thing is , you just can't ever stop . I hate to say it , but it's true . If you want to keep growing , you always have to grow , and that is the last lesson I'm going to leave you with .
Speaker 1I appreciate you all listening to this . It's been fun . It's been a fun two years . I don't have any intention of slowing down or stopping this . In fact , I would love to figure out a way that I can get more frequent with this podcast , especially with guests . Like I said , everyone has a story and everyone has something that we can learn from , and it's just tapping into those things . So if anyone ever wants to be a guest , by all means the door is open again . Shout out to dr phil I'm not coming on your podcast , you piece of shit . Sorry , I didn't mean to swear , it's just when I do my dr phil impression sometimes I do . If it was helpful at all , please share it with someone else . Until that point , everyone keep getting after peace .